B or P at the end, we pronounce (and hear) it as the same in Thai words – or even in English words
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Krub – just an example of “up to me” thai romanize/phonetic spelling. lol

Even I and my dad spell our lastname differently in our national ID card
I spell rak (love), he spell ruk

p.s. I love to read http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/ to see how foreigners learn Thai. Have you ever visited this site?

They rarely pronounce Rs, often replacing them with Ls – eg fast (reo, pronounced leo), school (rongien, pronounced longien) and know (roo, pronounced loo).

Or they omit the R sound all together – as with polite male article (krup/krub – depending on personal taste, English (angrit/angrid – personal taste again).

Makes it one hell of a lot harder, but hey, at least they don’t have lots of tenses as we do in English?!

Great post, communication is so important and those tones can make the difference big time – for example mispronounce snow and you have a female dog’s private ‘bits’ – oops!

I agree with Western Observer, I’ve been learning Thai script for a few months and its really worth the effort. Makes it easier but comes with new challenge such as no spaces between words.

A Thai friend once jokingly told me the language was constructed to prevent foreigners learning it — perhaps it’s a fact after all?
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I enjoy my Thai teacher very much as we have a lot of fun, but it takes me knowing something first before she’ll loosen up and teach me real Thai.

Ok, ok, being a lousy student doesn’t help
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I’m begining to think it’s a conspiracy!

Talen, I’m also hearing a p at the end of khap/gap. Sort of a swallowed p.

Rikker, thanks for coming in. I’m glad you are around to clear things up.

I know what I’m hearing but it’s nice to have you say that it is so. Especially when even Thai teachers try and get students to roll their r’s!

I took it that the guy seemed to think that colloquial Thai is broken Thai. But now I’m wondering just how proper his spoken English is… and what his Thai teacher is telling him…

I did find his comment about the tight pants hilarious. And if I can get over being nervous about posting in a gay forum, I just might. Just to see if anyone else is hearing something different too…
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I always hear a P sound at the end ( and that could be my hearing ) so thats how I say it. I’m always understood but then again I am a falang so I get smiled at no matter what especially when I speak a word wrong.

You couldn’t be more right on the signs. When I was in Nakhon Phanom last I wasn’t sure where the hell I was or if different parts of the city just had a different name. I counted at least 11 different spellings total and 7 different spellings on official signs.

…the masculine courtesy word is ‘khrap’, not ‘khap’ as you will hear all over town. ‘Khap’ in this context is broken Thai and should not be used. It actually means ‘tight’, as in ‘my pants are too tight’.

It’s saying it’s “broken Thai” to speak like actual Thai people speak in real life.

Romanization is a headache, to be sure. But using the word “correct” or “incorrect” is probably out of place, simply because there’s no accepted standard. The closest thing is the Royal Institute system (which would spell it “bua khao”), but of course this system isn’t always followed even on basic highway signs.

It’s a sticky, tricky issue with no clear solution.
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Krub (hah, notice how I spell it) with noticable R sounds too formal. So you hardly hear Thai say R sound although it’s the correct way to say .

Krub is also shorten from Koh-Rub (old Thai langauge, you can hear it in some Period Thai soaps)

about Ka (when asking a question) and Kha
in Thai spelling, there’re sooooooooo many Thai spell it wrong when using with Na/Nha like Na-ka and Nha-Kha, they use Na-Kha which is wrong! even in the media like TV or some gozzip/teen magazines and all over the internet.