David Carradine Murdered?

There have been many rumours flying around the internet about the recent death of David Carradine but in the past few days close family friends and publicists nave alluded to the fact that Carradine’s hand’s were tied when he was found.

In the past day a Thai Tabloid publication called Thai Rath has published a supposed crime scene photo with the head area blacked out. If this is David Carradine then suicide is clearly not an option as the hands of the victim shown are clearly tied above his head.

Carradine’s friends and family are now calling for the FBI to get involved with the Bangkok investigation because if the picture is that of Carradine then someone else was definitely present in the hotel room when he died and may have caused his death.

This doesn’t rule out dangerous sex play but it definitely leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

I won’t be publishing the picture here at Thailand, Land of Smiles out of respect for the friends and family but I will place a link below where you can see a picture of the cover story Thai Rath ran with the picture.

Although I want to be sensitive about this I think it’s important that if this is a crime scene photograph of Carradine’s death that the Thai police bring the person forward who leaked it and and bring them up on charges.

Keep in mind this could very well not be a picture of the crime scene at Carradine’s hotel room. But the photo in question does relay all the same evidence that has been alluded to by people close to Carradine.

Link to photo removed: I find I’m still uncomfortable with this picture and with more inspection of the picture I seriously doubt it was that of David Carradines death. The hotel room is way too small to be that of the hotel he was reported to be staying in and I have yet to see a Thai Tabloid black out any victims face so it’s odd they would do it in this instance.

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16 Responses to David Carradine Murdered?
  1. Catherine
    June 7, 2009 | 10:31 pm

    I’m more of the opinion that he tied his hands as a part of the sexual play.

    And yes, you can tie your own hands.

    Tying your hands behind your back and then putting a bag over your head is a different matter entirely… (and one not unknown in Thailand).

    But will we ever know the truth? TIT…

    Catherines last blog post..Baby Bird Watching in Bangkok

  2. Talen
    June 7, 2009 | 11:25 pm

    Catherine I don’t think I want to know how you know you can tie your own hands lol.

    Just seems very odd, this sort of sexual play the hangee as it were usually doesn’t tie the hands…it makes the risk of death go up 1000 fold.

  3. Catherine
    June 8, 2009 | 12:22 am

    Hehh hehh… I um…

    I agree, it does seem odd. But from what I read, the extreme bondage has something to do with adding additional pressure (?) and that bondage addicts often add little extras to the mix.

    Before I give the wrong impression… I don’t know anything about auto-erotic asphyxiation other than what I read after this hit the news.

    I have a curious nature is all…

    Catherines last blog post..Baby Bird Watching in Bangkok

  4. Joel
    June 8, 2009 | 12:42 pm

    If you read the public Carradine divorce papers, you can imagine motives for murder.

    Joels last blog post..David Carradine Dies in Bangkok – Murder or Accidental Death?

  5. Alew
    June 8, 2009 | 1:09 pm

    Carradine is the family curse?!
    I think that watching this movie, you will be able to understand why it happened.
    See the last interview:Carradine-film

  6. Nick
    June 9, 2009 | 2:23 am

    The photo looks pretty suspect. It certainly doesn’t look like a 5 star hotel bedroom. I have never been able to stay in one of those, but I have stayed in 3 and 4 star hotels in Thailand and even in those, the closet is normally in the bathroom or further away from the bed than the one in the picture that purports to be that of Carradine. In the photo, the bed is right next to the wardrobe and it looks as if its painted. 5 star hotels in Bangkok don’t have painted wardrobes – they are natural wood.

    June 9, 2009 | 6:27 pm

    The lone footprint is the calling card or trademark symbol of a secret society. Carradine must have seriously pissed someone off to be taken out in such a amanner. The cord used in the murder is symbolical. It refers to being tied to the bondage of ignorance or something. For more on the use of cords in initiation rites check out the freemasons.
    He was located on a closet…closets are normally used for keeping something in. Carradine exposedf some secret that is nornmally only reserved for those whom are initiated. In murdering Carradine in this way, the society who killed him are leaving us two clues, one the lone footprint, the trademark of the society and 2, the binding of Carradine with A cord to symbolise his ignorance.

  8. Pattaya Pete
    June 9, 2009 | 8:57 pm

    Jabulon do you work for the Carradine Family? According to an article in the Nation Today they are saying he was killed because he was investigating secret Kung-Fu societies.

    Although his ex-wives say he was just a kinky deviant – not that there’s anything wrong with that :-)

    It is sad though – I did like David Carradine.

    Pattaya Petes last blog post..Sriracha Tiger Zoo – Pattaya Thailand

  9. Talen
    June 9, 2009 | 9:05 pm

    The lone foot print is just that a footprint it symbolizes someone left a footprint. The cord is just a cord symbolizing a cord.

    Freemasons in Thailand? I would adjust your tin foil cap a little and put some thinks into perspective. Carradine was a kinky man by all accounts. He was in Bangkok where kink is easy to come by and he died.

    It wasn’t a suicide and most likely not murder…just kinky sex gone bad.

    • Catherine
      June 11, 2009 | 4:11 am

      People close to Carradine, inc. his family, say he was involved in secret societies involving the martial arts. He was the type to break rules…
      I’ve never been a conspiracy nut, but this just doesn’t add up: On the O’Reilly Factor, they disclosed the hands were tied above him and that there were a wig and “fish-net stockings” in the room. Yet the detectives on O’Reill said that if the hotel claims the security camera showed nobody else go in all night- that proved he was alone…WHAT? They showed pics of the outside of the hotel with huge WINDOWS, they take the word of the hotel that their camera footage was not tampered with, they ignore the fact that many hotels have doors between adjacent rooms, and some point out that this kind of fetish is always covered up by protecting the neck with a cloth- which was not done. Worse, he was in a sitting position- but there was not chair! Did someone remove it at the critical moment? who knows- but it stinks that simple Kung Fu show fans (and esp. his family!) only have this much info. when it just doesn’t all add up.

      • Catherine
        June 11, 2009 | 4:47 am

        Another thought…

        In Bangkok, it seems it would be very easy to make any big-shot American look like he died in some kinky way- esp. if he ever had any prior evidence in a divorce dispute.

        If anyone was responsible for killing him- who would believe it? He’s Hollywood, rich- they all do kinky stuff- right?

        But the EVIDENCE SHOULD BE EXAMINED: why were women’s stockings and wig left behind? Why do something like that alone in Bangkok, where I’ll bet some hotels offer women with the room-service? Why did he risk the rope-burns by not covering his neck with a cloth- as is done to prevent marks? Why NOT investigate the secret societies he was into?

        After all, if anyone wanted to kill him, this WOULD be the perfect way…and they would be getting away with it right now. I wish he had never gotten into that nasty & violent film Kill Bill. It seems to have altered his destiny…

        Catherine- (not the same one as above)

      • Talen
        June 11, 2009 | 11:35 am

        Catherine, the problem I have with this is the fact that all the news media is using the supposed crime scene photo as evidence.The wig and stocking evidence is coming directly from this photo and if you look closely at it the wig is actually the head blacked out and the stockings is the lividity from blood settling.

        Tne picture is real but it’s not possible that it’s Carradine because that is most definitely not the hotel he was staying in. The room pictured was a budget hotel room.

        It definitely sucks that the evidence coming forward isn’t very good but there is still a chance that the Thai police are keeping it under wraps and still investigating.

    • Pahana
      June 11, 2009 | 7:43 am

      There are several Masonic lodges in Thailand and all over Asia.

      • Talen
        June 11, 2009 | 11:38 am

        yes, there are masonic lodges the world round. And the conspiracy theories concerning them are even thinner than the kung fu secret societie theories.

  10. Catherine
    June 13, 2009 | 3:31 am

    Well, Talen, I couldn’t even see the photo- because I’m writing from the US where everyone is scared that they will be sued if they re-print it. I was going on the word of his mananger in the new film and others who said they were angry that “the forensics photo” was shown. I figured that the people with him could vouch for that being the room. Did they perhaps not show it all? There are sometimes more than one closet it “luxury” rooms- and then sometimes, “luxury” rooms just arent what they claim.

    Anyway, more news came out in the US that the forensic Doc. here “ruled out suicide!” that is good for his wife and family_ so that they can get the life ins. Unfortunately, the ex-wives are adding to the kinky tales.

    I do not respect the type of lifestyle he led. He risked everything with his lust for kink. Yet, there is just something about it…like the lack of a protective cloth to cover rope-burns. It has been revealed that it was a chord that left marks…

    I saw some recent pictures of him-(alive) he did not button his shirt completely- and his neck had NO marks. It may still smell- but at least an expert on this fetish will be looking into it- I guess that’s the best anyone can ask for…

    What a sad story…

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