Comments on: Big Trouble in Thailand? http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/ Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:02:49 -0500 hourly 1 By: Global Voices Online » TV documentary stirs debate on Thailand tourism http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8809 Global Voices Online » TV documentary stirs debate on Thailand tourism Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:19:50 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8809 [...] Land of Smiles thinks the documentary is a fraud and that some scenes were staged I think Big Trouble in Thailand is much more than a waste of [...] [...] Land of Smiles thinks the documentary is a fraud and that some scenes were staged I think Big Trouble in Thailand is much more than a waste of [...]

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By: Katy Peacock http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8763 Katy Peacock Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:03:01 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8763 I think that "Big trouble in Thailand" could be an ongoing documentary which would run for years and years. Our friends and family have been ripped off much more than any other person on last weeks show, the Thai Police are an absolute joke, i only hope that the forein police assistants can help people who become victims of curruption. As for the farrangs who commit drug crime in Thailand, i found it very interesting and mind blowing to watch - especially the guy who got 26 yrs omg i would rather get the death sentance! Mr Miller was only trying to help the people out there, and as for someones comments who said he was acting on the side of the currupt Thai police, i hope he wasn't other wise what is the point in them being there?? If anyone has got any information on a currupt Thai (so called Solicitor) who cons British people out of thousands of pounds please can you help. His name is Karanjanrat Pajoit or something similar. any help would be much appreciated. I think that “Big trouble in Thailand” could be an ongoing documentary which would run for years and years. Our friends and family have been ripped off much more than any other person on last weeks show, the Thai Police are an absolute joke, i only hope that the forein police assistants can help people who become victims of curruption.

As for the farrangs who commit drug crime in Thailand, i found it very interesting and mind blowing to watch – especially the guy who got 26 yrs omg i would rather get the death sentance!

Mr Miller was only trying to help the people out there, and as for someones comments who said he was acting on the side of the currupt Thai police, i hope he wasn’t other wise what is the point in them being there??

If anyone has got any information on a currupt Thai (so called Solicitor) who cons British people out of thousands of pounds please can you help. His name is Karanjanrat Pajoit or something similar. any help would be much appreciated.

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By: John S. Johnson http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8740 John S. Johnson Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:03:10 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8740 In this show the attitude of the tourist police was apparently favorable towards corruption. How convenient when you can get away from any situation just by paying the amount of money you're asked to pay. Don't have to spend annoying two or three hours solving the situation at the police station. Everything can be solved just by paying some corruption money. As easy as it gets. In this show the attitude of the tourist police was apparently favorable towards corruption. How convenient when you can get away from any situation just by paying the amount of money you’re asked to pay. Don’t have to spend annoying two or three hours solving the situation at the police station. Everything can be solved just by paying some corruption money. As easy as it gets.

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By: Anonymous http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8696 Anonymous Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:03:20 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8696 Here is an article about the jet ski scams in thailand also at the bottom there is information the jetski scammer JJ from the show being arrested http://www.thai-blogs.com/index.php/2009/09/10/big-trouble-in-thailand-jet-ski-scam?blog=5 Here is an article about the jet ski scams in thailand also at the bottom there is information the jetski scammer JJ from the show being arrested

http://www.thai-blogs.com/index.php/2009/09/10/big-trouble-in-thailand-jet-ski-scam?blog=5

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By: Anonymous http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8695 Anonymous Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:49:14 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8695 These indeed shows the bizarre bad behavior of foreigners abroad. However, to say that some money passes hand and I'll admit some scams occur is understating the reality in Thailand. Its hard for Westerners to truly grasp how corrupt the country is. It is beautiful and has its allure. There have been other examples such as someone helping someone up from a motorbike accident then being blamed for it and having to pay 60,000 baht, or being pulled over for no reason and asked to pay a bribe. Not saying its bad or good, but this is accurate or understated view of Thailand. It is what it is. I have been living here for sometime, and a colleague of coined the phrase land of smiles and daggers. These indeed shows the bizarre bad behavior of foreigners abroad. However, to say that some money passes hand and I’ll admit some scams occur is understating the reality in Thailand. Its hard for Westerners to truly grasp how corrupt the country is. It is beautiful and has its allure. There have been other examples such as someone helping someone up from a motorbike accident then being blamed for it and having to pay 60,000 baht, or being pulled over for no reason and asked to pay a bribe. Not saying its bad or good, but this is accurate or understated view of Thailand. It is what it is. I have been living here for sometime, and a colleague of coined the phrase land of smiles and daggers.

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By: Talen http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8324 Talen Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:52:51 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8324 I have a feeling you'll be waiting a very long time Andy. I have a feeling you’ll be waiting a very long time Andy.

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By: topgun http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8295 topgun Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:36:42 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8295 Sounds same old same old. Those jet ski people do need a shake down though. they push the boat right out. so to speak. had a running with them myslef a few years ago. my advice is probably buy your own 1 for about 350 000 baht probably cheaper and safer in the long run. or just don't rent Sounds same old same old. Those jet ski people do need a shake down though. they push the boat right out. so to speak. had a running with them myslef a few years ago. my advice is probably buy your own 1 for about 350 000 baht probably cheaper and safer in the long run. or just don’t rent

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By: Andy http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8266 Andy Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:03:19 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8266 Waiting for a come back from Howard Miller 1. You are correct that the tourist police are an arm of the royal Thai police and they do have the power to investigate crimes and make arrests. Tourist police VOLUNTEERS such as yourself DO NOT have those powers.That was a nice attempt of you to confuse the situation. Well said Talen Waiting for a come back from Howard Miller

1. You are correct that the tourist police are an arm of the royal Thai police and they do have the power to investigate crimes and make arrests. Tourist police VOLUNTEERS such as yourself DO NOT have those powers.That was a nice attempt of you to confuse the situation.

Well said Talen

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By: andy http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8247 andy Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:52:10 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8247 come on mr miller who you kidding..pattaya is like something from enid blytons toy town..police are a joke, only interested in farang with no helmet whilst on mopeds, where are the police at night when all the crime is happening...ASLEEP, there is a thai man on walking st everynight selling cannabiss cocain yabba oat the bottom of soi 16 about too meters from where you sit and you dont know, the police are selling the drugs in the go go bars etc, why dont you stand up for the people your supposed to represent instead of being a goffer for the corrupt pattaya police..oh and while im here why not do something about the thai who sells peodophile dvds on the bottom of soi yamoto beach rd..regards..andy come on mr miller who you kidding..pattaya is like something from enid blytons toy town..police are a joke, only interested in farang with no helmet whilst on mopeds, where are the police at night when all the crime is happening…ASLEEP, there is a thai man on walking st everynight selling cannabiss cocain yabba oat the bottom of soi 16 about too meters from where you sit and you dont know, the police are selling the drugs in the go go bars etc, why dont you stand up for the people your supposed to represent instead of being a goffer for the corrupt pattaya police..oh and while im here why not do something about the thai who sells peodophile dvds on the bottom of soi yamoto beach rd..regards..andy

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By: toby http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8216 toby Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:54:10 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8216 Staged or not I think the production was a good one. Thai people are natural actors. The stories were interesting and thought provoking. Certainly raised a lot of eyebrows. The jet ski segment could not put Englishman into a bad light if that was the shows intent because too many people know about the jet ski scams not too mention JJ bringing out a gun. Over acting maybe but real possibly true but if he called the camera crew then it was over acting but made for good TV. But not withstanding the jet ski scam all tour boat operators I have dealt with in many different provinces are fair and decent people who really enjoy making the Farang have the best vacation experience possible! I had one incident in Koh Leape whereby I had paid to go on one speedboat from Leape to Satun but was told by a competitor to get on his boat (not knowing whose boat it was)with every body else to find out I had to pay again so I then realized we got on the wrong boat and when I got back to the dock I had to demand my first payment back in the form of a refund from a very tall and angry Thai man but when I pointed out that I did not use his service and that this sort of thing happens every day (my assumption) and started looking for the police he gave me the refund after his 15 minute tirade. Most Thai people are very patient and kind and in some provinces quite generous to me. I am much more inclined to stay away from Farang in tourist spots and always gravitate towards the Thai locals with the exception of Pattaya as I stay away from both. This is perhaps why most all of my many experiences in Thailand have been very positive for me. Staged or not I think the production was a good one. Thai people are natural actors. The stories were interesting and thought provoking. Certainly raised a lot of eyebrows. The jet ski segment could not put Englishman into a bad light if that was the shows intent because too many people know about the jet ski scams not too mention JJ bringing out a gun. Over acting maybe but real possibly true but if he called the camera crew then it was over acting but made for good TV. But not withstanding the jet ski scam all tour boat operators I have dealt with in many different provinces are fair and decent people who really enjoy making the Farang have the best vacation experience possible! I had one incident in Koh Leape whereby I had paid to go on one speedboat from Leape to Satun but was told by a competitor to get on his boat (not knowing whose boat it was)with every body else to find out I had to pay again so I then realized we got on the wrong boat and when I got back to the dock I had to demand my first payment back in the form of a refund from a very tall and angry Thai man but when I pointed out that I did not use his service and that this sort of thing happens every day (my assumption) and started looking for the police he gave me the refund after his 15 minute tirade. Most Thai people are very patient and kind and in some provinces quite generous to me. I am much more inclined to stay away from Farang in tourist spots and always gravitate towards the Thai locals with the exception of Pattaya as I stay away from both. This is perhaps why most all of my many experiences in Thailand have been very positive for me.

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By: Andrew Drummond http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8183 Andrew Drummond Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:16:35 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8183 Just to clarify matters. All the pictures on my site were provided by the producer at my request. They went out under the name Chant/Gavin Hill because picture syndication goes out under the name Andrew Chant together with the name of the cameraman. We were not there but would love to have been. .-= Andrew Drummond´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2009/09/15/i-apologise-to-the-thai-people-but-blame-the-film-makers-jj/" rel="nofollow">I apologise to the Thai people but blame the film-makers - JJ</a> =-. Just to clarify matters. All the pictures on my site were provided by the producer at my request.
They went out under the name Chant/Gavin Hill because picture syndication goes out under the name Andrew Chant together with the name of the cameraman. We were not there but would love to have been.
Andrew Drummond´s last blog ..I apologise to the Thai people but blame the film-makers – JJ My ComLuv Profile

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By: Talen http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8166 Talen Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:14:46 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8166 Garry, Very true points. I always have a good chuckle whenever an American gets in trouble in another country and they try to invoke their rights thinking that they extend to other countries. Garry,
Very true points. I always have a good chuckle whenever an American gets in trouble in another country and they try to invoke their rights thinking that they extend to other countries.

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By: Garry http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8162 Garry Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:11:17 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8162 Talen, I have been to Thailand 50 or so times. I have seen the jet ski incident on a couple of occasions at different beaches, but they were on the beach and not at the ski owners house, with this in mind it could well have been staged. As for the Yabba find I too was mystified as to how they walked straight up and found the drug wrapped in a bottle top. Thailand is no different to any other country in the world. If you commit a crime you do the time, its no use bleating when caught theres only one person to blame. Regards Gazza Talen, I have been to Thailand 50 or so times. I have seen the jet ski incident on a couple of occasions at different beaches, but they were on the beach and not at the ski owners house, with this in mind it could well have been staged. As for the Yabba find I too was mystified as to how they walked straight up and found the drug wrapped in a bottle top.
Thailand is no different to any other country in the world. If you commit a crime you do the time, its no use bleating when caught theres only one person to blame.
Regards
Gazza

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By: Talen http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8131 Talen Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:28:37 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8131 Martyn, I agree there was a lot of playing up to the camera's but I still find in unbelievable that it happened at the jet ski owners house and not on the beach. The jet ski operator was arrested today based on the filmed footage and one of the makers of the documentary, Gavin Hall is his name I believe, has been on various sites feeling bad for JJ...what did he think would happen? And why would he feel bad? I still don;t buy the fact that any military personnel would head off this situation on his own without calling in the authorities. On at least one forum it was claimed that the police were called and involved but that the footage was cut from the film...if that is true I wonder why JJ wasn't arrested immediately. Martyn, I agree there was a lot of playing up to the camera’s but I still find in unbelievable that it happened at the jet ski owners house and not on the beach.

The jet ski operator was arrested today based on the filmed footage and one of the makers of the documentary, Gavin Hall is his name I believe, has been on various sites feeling bad for JJ…what did he think would happen? And why would he feel bad?

I still don;t buy the fact that any military personnel would head off this situation on his own without calling in the authorities. On at least one forum it was claimed that the police were called and involved but that the footage was cut from the film…if that is true I wonder why JJ wasn’t arrested immediately.

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By: Martyn http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2009/09/08/big-trouble-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-8130 Martyn Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:56:53 +0000 http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/?p=2318#comment-8130 Talen I viewed the program and quite enjoyed it but more from the point of view that I saw a lot of what I'm missing. The jet ski incident between JJ and the navy officer was in my opinion possibly real but with one hell of a lot of playing up to the cameras, maybe a deal was struck and certain actions agreed. Episode One hasn't exactly set the world on fire here in the UK and so I'll stick to my no damage to Thailand assessment. If episode two comes and finds me then I'll watch it but otherwise it's a no no for me. Talen I viewed the program and quite enjoyed it but more from the point of view that I saw a lot of what I’m missing. The jet ski incident between JJ and the navy officer was in my opinion possibly real but with one hell of a lot of playing up to the cameras, maybe a deal was struck and certain actions agreed. Episode One hasn’t exactly set the world on fire here in the UK and so I’ll stick to my no damage to Thailand assessment. If episode two comes and finds me then I’ll watch it but otherwise it’s a no no for me.

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